experiment 626

coffee and ink

Let the whole world crumble, so long as I can read another page. And then another after that. And then a hundred more.

--Michael Dirda, Readings

[info]rydra_wong's archiving of links is a purely voluntary labor that is as comprehensive as it is because she is a superhero. (Oracle, obviously.)

If you know of or have written a post that you would like to be linked, help keep Gotham safe by commenting with the link on the most recent gcad0d09 links post.

Also, the FeministSF wiki entry could use updating by anyone who's inclined.
John Scalzi invited Mary Anne Mohanraj to post at Whatever on Race in sf/f. Her post is excellent and the comments are better than I expected. I am posting because she could probably use help with some of the comments, if anyone has the patience left to respond with the tact and restraint necessary for a comments section that seemed to trend white and male, at least on the posts about race; right now there's a lot of [info]racism_101 discussion going on. It kind of makes me cringe to see it all directed at one person, even one who volunteered to answer it.

This is 100% my own nosy busybody suggestion and was not vetted by or suggested by either Mary Anne Mohanraj or John Scalzi, neither of whom I know except glancingly.

If you make a mess, I didn't send you there, I've never heard of you, and don't ask me to help you make bail.


Other cons recommended as concerned with racial diversity and antiracism
Wiscon
Wiscon program signup ends Friday.

[info]kate_nepveu has opened the Send POC to Wiscon fundraiser.

I have seen a few people ([info]asim, maybe? [info]mystickeeper or [info]were_duck?) ask about Wiscon programming about RaceFail09. The deadline for programming submission was before all this started, IIRC, so if you want something on the program, I would recommend (a) writing the programming heads on the concom directly; and/or (b) brainstorming/gathering attendee interest in a Spontaneous Programming item beforehand. [info]oyceter and I did this last year for a number of our favoritest things pet topics unscheduled panel ideas and it worked pretty well.

IBARW
[info]ibarw is looking for newsletter moderators.

Translation
L. Timmel Duchamp posted on translating sf/f as a response to the "RaceFail Challenge" (someone else came up with the initial panel description, though; it is much too clear and concise to be mine. :) ) which makes an interesting pairing with [info]ciderpress's thoughts on translation. (WANT MORE ANGELICA GORODISCHER, PLS. ALSO FUMIKO ENCHI KTHXBYE!)

Publishing and publicity
[info]verb_noire has posted guidelines.

[info]fjm is looking for people interested in reading their remyths at Worldcon.
Pam Noles, Shame:

Once [Dad] asked me which was more real, the movie or the skits between. I didn't get it, and told him that they were both stories, so they were both fake. He didn't bring it up again until a skit came on. I can't remember if it was a 'Soulman' skit or one of the caveman gags (the cavemen were multicultural — basic white, Polish, Italian, and black). But I remember Dad saying, how come you never see anybody like that in the stories you like? And I remember answering, maybe they didn't have black people back then. He said there's always been black people. I said but black people can't be wizards and space people and they can't fight evil, so they can't be in the story. When he didn't say anything back I turned around. He was in full recline mode in his chair and he was very still, looking at me. He didn't say anything else.


Laila Lalami, The Missionary Position:

These days, being a Muslim woman means being saddled with what can only be referred to as the "burden of pity." The feelings of compassion that we Muslim women seem to inspire emanate from very distinct and radically opposed currents: religious extremists of our own faith, and evangelical and secular supporters of empire in the West.
I'm going to try to take a break from posting on or reading the continuing RaceFail, although I don't know if I'll succeed. A few updates:


  • I agree with [info]spiralsheep's call for Will Shetterly and Kathryn Cramer to be shunned. By this I do not mean that their friends and loved ones should abandon them or retract their personal connections to them, but that they should shunned by the community for professional and social reasons. They have endangered the sf community, not just me personally, and unless and until such time as they can evidence an understanding of their actions, express contrition, and demonstrate rehabilitation, they are simply not safe to have in the community.

  • I have filed complaints about privacy violations with WordPress about Will Shetterly and with LJ about Will Shetterly and [info]greyorm, asking that posts and comments identifying my LJ as my full legal name be removed. I have not bothered to contact WordPress or her ISP about Kathryn Cramer's privacy violations, as she had taken all identifying information down before I could figure out how to contact the appropriate party, and I do not currently have any plans to file a complaint about her or Will Shetterly's harassment and defamation of me, which I do not feel should be submitted to ISP or blog provider arbitration.

    I am not particularly confident my complaints will be acted upon, but I've made them.

  • A few people have apologized for unknowingly linking my full name to my LJ or disclosing my full name to people offline. That is kind, but no apology is necessary. As I said earlier, people have made that mistake before and I've simply requested they update their links. I continue to believe that this was, in fact, the nature of Will Shetterly's original posting; the problem for me is not that he made a mistake.

  • I may change my userprofile name to "Mely" again. Strangely, I am feeling a little exposed.

    I will probably not be removing my name from previous posts, and do not ask other people do so, although at the moment I am inclined to ask that people refer to me in the context of this blog either as "Mely" or "coffeeandink" in the future.

  • I may ask readers to Googlebomb my full name at some other Web site later, as some people have suggested.

  • I put up the response to Kathryn because I said I'd do one, and I wanted closure, against the advice of friends. But as reprehensible (and as painful for me, personally) Will and Kathryn's behavior has been, and as deserving of censure, I do not want people to lose sight of the fact that this isn't simply a case of individual people acting poorly, or even individual people performing racist actions. It would be easy for white people to say, "Science fiction isn't racist; a couple of people just overreacted." But this overreaction comes out of and depends on white privilege and racism as a social institution, system of thought, and system of power and oppression. The racism in science fiction -- the ongoing erasure and denial of the people of color who are right here and speaking about their representation and misrepresentation -- is not the property of two individuals.

  • I have seen more sf/f pros become aware of the debate and speak up since I made this post, and I regret that I became accusatory in my anger and pain. I'm ... not quite sure I want to apologize, but I do regret it, for what that's worth. Mostly I regret that I gave into the temptation to make the issue my own pain, rather than the more structural issues of racism and responsibility. [info]oyceter says what I should have said here.

  • I don't know if I will get to the comment replies I had planned to this weekend.


[Comments disabled because it would be too easy to turn this post into another sympathy-gathering fest.]
Dear Kathryn,

This is in response to your email of March 5, in which you said:

Kathryn's email )

Violation of privacy )

Defamation )

Harassment )

Racism
You've said:

However . . . I don’t see how there can be a coherent narrative over there of what happened without a simple who said what mapped, for the most part, to actual people. It is especially bizarre to have entries for people and discussions of things said by a particular LJ handle for that person without it being allowed to make a link between the two: a kind of simulated schizophrenia.

One thing I really don’t get: if this is supposed to be about race, how is the(white) Fearless Leader able to con her followers into being interested in it when she picks a fight with (white) me? Don’t they have, like, homework at these fancy schools anymore?



And also:

While her lizardoid minions were passing through my blog this afternoon, I took a whole bunch of screen shots. They go to Harvard. They go to Princeton. They go To Columbia. They go to NYU. They go to Oxford. They go to Cambridge. (I kept doing it until I got really bored.)

While surely some of those people are on full scholarship, it strikes me as highly unlikely that all of them are. It cost two hundred grand to get an undergrad degree at Harvard these days. Downtrodden? Yeah. Right. Suuuure . . .


The racism, classism, and general illogic of the second quote have been dissected by [info]darkrosetiger and [info]delux_vivens, but I wish to also point out what they probably felt was too obvious to say, which is that referring to people of color as "lizardoid minions" [eta: see also] participates in a long history of racist imagery that debases people of color by referring to them as animals, as well as a long history of racist conviction that people of color must be "minions" or "followers"; that they cannot address their own oppression, or indeed anything about their own lives, without the assistance of white people.

Your actions, Kathryn, are racist not because they are an attack against me -- white women cannot be the victims of racism, which is the institutional operation of white supremacy -- but because they erase people of color from the conversation. Because it is easier for you to believe the dozens or hundreds of posts made so far in this series of arguments are about one white woman's grudge against other white people than that people of color are involved in science fiction, that they have spoken up for themselves at length and repeatedly, that race and racism in science fiction fandom, literature, media, and publishing continue to be the elephant in the room.

This elephant, Kathryn, is a metaphorical construct made out of real people. You are looking right at these real people. They are right here. They are in this virtual room. They are speaking. They are reading books, and writing them, and writing about them. Why don't you see them?

eta: Also see Shutting Down Discussion Is Wrong.
Thanks for the comments and posts, guys. I will try to respond this weekend.

Meanwhile: In the last post, [info]oursin and [info]akamarykate respectively recommended the charities Afghanaid and Books for Africa.

The incredibly awesome [info]kate_nepveu is talking about setting up a fundraiser to send fans of color to Wiscon.

eta: Also some people sent me some LJ gifts and other virtual gifts, some anonymous and some not, I think, and I thank you and will try to thank you more specifically this weekend. I am sorry to be so rude.

eta 2: I'd like to clarify that the fundraiser Kate's setting up is in response to a few POC fans talking about wanting to go to Wiscon and not being able to afford it. It's not about enticing reluctant fans to place they don't want to go. I absolutely do not want anyone to go to a place they consider unsafe, emotionally or physically.

I would also enthusiastically support an sf con by and for POC, whether or not white fans were permitted to attend, if anyone is motivated to organize that -- I just have not heard of such a project.

Increasing the number of (willing!) POC fans at Wiscon or any sf con doesn't make the con a safe space for POC, but it makes it safer.
Will Shetterly,

People have explained to you that modern search engines create search results by evaluating the implicit associations between words--that is, you do not need associate $wordphrase with a URL by making $wordphrase the text of the link. Simply repeating $wordphrase in close proximity to the link will change the search results.

By repeating my full name in close proximity to your previous posts which mention my blog, you are continuing to out me in a way that violates the spirit but not the word of your blog provider's terms of service.

This is in violation of both my expressed desire that you never mention my name again, my expressed desire not to be outed, and your "assurance" that you would not out me or anyone else again.

You are outing me after having claimed you would stop. You are outing me after people have told you it is wrong and dangerous. You are outing me knowing nothing of my circumstances. You are outing me having been warned it could expose me to physical violence, sexual abuse, personal harassment, and professional and personal hardship.

You are a liar, a harasser, and a menace to the sf community who should be shunned for the well-being of its members.

P.S. As a Jewish woman, I do not appreciate being compared to the KKK or lectured on the representation of Jewish women in fiction. Indeed, we could indeed have an interesting discussion about whether a Jewish woman in the 19th century was white, and whether it is aesthetically, historically, or politically problematic that Territory fails to address this issue in any way whatsoever, if by "we" you mean people NOT INCLUDING YOU.

eta: Will has edited the post to remove my name and the link.
This is Will Shetterly's latest post:

This keeps coming up, so I’m interrupting my internet holiday:

Micole says here that she briefly outed two fans, then took the information off the public web. I outed her briefly, then took the information off my sites entirely. It’s not in a “friends only” area. It’s gone. She is as safe from me now as those two fans are from her. I will not out her or anyone again. As I realized after I briefly outed her, everyone’s shit is theirs to live with.

ETA: I’ve been informed that Micole hadn’t known her brief outing was an outing. Apologies for making it seem like that was my point: my point is that she is just as safe as those two fans are now. She will not be outed. Nor will anyone else.



No, Will. I am not as safe. And the situations are not analogous.

You seem to have difficulty with reading comprehension. Perhaps if you try reading people's posts and comments aloud, you will be able to hear what they are saying rather than what you believe they are going to say.

I am going to skip the link gathering because I am very, very tired and also because, as usual, you have deleted half the evidence. Since you have complained about the irrelevance and painfulness of having to document the statements you make--I believe you suggested that people who asked for evidence of your statements were trolls?--I am sure you will not mind.

When you posted my full name, I assumed you had done it in ignorance, or I would not have bothered to write you. I did not bother to write you about your many, many misrepresentations about my personal life because of previous history. I asked you to take down my last name and to refer to me by my first name, my nickname, or my LJ handle, as that is how I prefer to be called, and I thanked you for your time.

You did take down my last name. You replaced it with [LASTNAME REDACTED] and a complaint about my unreasonability in expecting you to respect my privacy preference. You encouraged your commenters to seek out my name, to post it in your comments on LJ and on your blog, and in their own LJs. You insulted me for not thanking you, in public and in email. You posted my full name again and took it down again several times. You complained in your comments about how your chivalry caused you to protect me. You replaced my last name with "ATTACKSANONYMOUSLY" and other insults I have now forgotten. You claimed I had suggested a boycott of Tor, even though I have never done so, and encouraged many of your commenters to believe I had suggested or encouraged that you be forced to leave Shadow Unit, even though I had never commented on it. You once again encouraged your commenters to post my full name. You tried to out me once again on the feministsf wiki, based on the argument that no one on the antiracist "side" was "forced" to reveal their full name, apparently having neglected to read the page you were editing, which linked to Mary Dell, Yoon Ha Lee, N.K. Jemisin, K. Tempest Bradford, and Kate Nepveu, and having forgotten that you yourself had several conversations with Mary Dell during the course of the arguments.

When I went public, you called me a hypocrite and a coward and told me to "own my shit". As I had in fact linked to Kathryn's outing of me, which by this point has been seen by several hundred people at minimum, I am confused as to what more "shit" I am supposed to own.

Your response to my outing was: "P.S. Micole? Take a break. It ain’t near as big a thang as you think it is. Or, if you want enemies, aim for more powerful ones than Kathyrn or me. Always dream big!"

Yes. Actually, Will, it is that big.

You outed me after people told you and told you and told you this was wrong and dangerous. You outed me knowing nothing of my circumstances. You outed me having been warned it could expose me to physical violence, sexual abuse, personal harassment, and professional and personal hardship. You outed me, you kept re-outing me, you encouraged others to out me.

You have offered several different explanations for why you felt justified in outing me. Sometimes it is because I criticized Teresa in a post whose criticisms you have never attempted to discuss or address in any way. Sometimes it is because Emma and Patrick got hurt in RaceFail09, even though I said nothing about Emma and only spoke about Patrick in that post you haven't ever actually bothered to discuss. Sometimes it is because I "attacked" Kathryn by linking to her own words and, in fact, allowing her the opportunity to publicize the information about me she apparently desired to publicize up until the time anyone actually tried to read it. However, the present and most consistent explanation appears to be that you felt I criticized you unfairly. Allegedly, I criticized you unfairly by linking to YOUR OWN WORDS, with as much context as it was possible to provide after YOU DELETED THE ORIGINAL CONTEXT, and by linking to YOUR OWN REBUTTAL in both the ORIGINAL POST and A SEPARATE UPDATE.

Man, I wish I had enemies that malicious and unreasonable, instead of nice guys like you.

You have not apologized for any of this. You have not attempted to make amends for any of it.

Your apology, frankly, would be worthless to me. Your "assurance" that I am safe is worthless to me, not to mention inaccurate, as it cannot retract the information already out, widely disseminated and re-disseminated. Your word is worthless.

You outed me either for criticizing your behavior in discussions of race, or for criticizing the behavior of your friends in a discussion of race. You have proven quite conclusively that it really is unsafe to discuss race in sf fandom. You have proven quite conclusively that sf fandom is pretty much unsafe for anyone who has trusted you or someone you might talk to with information they do not want to reveal. You have done me profound damage. You have done sf fandom profound damage. You do not appear to recognize any of this.

This is what I would like:

  • I would like you to consider yourself under a restraining order against me. You may not email me. You may not speak to me. You may not write me letters. You may not attend conventions I attend (for the record, Vividcon, Wiscon, Readercon).

  • You may not write or speak about me, either by name, nickname, LJ handle, epithet, or allusion. You will delete every single post you have ever made about me and every single comment. You will delete the comments in your space that out me. You will not encourage others to out me or to insult me.

  • As an exception, since I do not intend to take down "Will Shetterly: DO NOT ENGAGE", you may keep up your rebuttal. In this rebuttal you are to refer to me only as "coffeeandink".

  • I would also like, frankly, for you to be shunned by sf fandom and to be banned from congoing until you have established by honest contrition and consistent and long-term improvements in behavior that you can be trusted not to out fans, to abuse women who disagree with you, or to make conventions unsafe for people of color and their allies. Like Rachel/the Something Awful Poster who harassed Wiscon attendees last year, you have betrayed the common standards of fannish and human civility. You cannot be trusted. You should not be permitted to harm more people.


I do not, frankly, think any of this will happen. I do not think you have the maturity or grace to realize what you have done or to effect change. I would like to be surprised.

I do not think sf cons will ban you. I have received a lot of backup from media fans, from POC, from individuals in the feminist sf community and some individuals in the sf literary community. I have witnessed a few of your friends call you on your behavior, and although I think they did it out of their own senses of honor, rather than any personal attachment to me, I nevertheless appreciate their actions.

However, and in general, the silence from sf fandom has been pretty fucking resounding. Apparently, it's a very, very, very big deal when a woman of color criticizes someone's book, or when a white editor's feelings get hurt, but outing someone's legal name on the Internet? That's not worth a mention.

Thanks, sf fandom. I hadn't quite understood my place. It's a lot clearer to me now.
As usual, [info]rydra_wong's milkshake brings all the links to the yard.

[info]rydra_wong: PSA: Special bonus FAIL (warning about Will Shetterly's access to fan's RL names)
[info]vito_excalibur: Shetterly & Cramer: Once More with, Failing
[info]spiralsheep: In which Kathryn Cramer & Will Shetterly should be shunned for our own safety and the sake of our community
[info]ciderpress: You mean those giant brains are making everyone on earth stupid?
[info]shewhohashope: Cultural Appropriation and SF/F: Once More, with Apathy
[info]zvi_likes_tv: Shorter Kathryn Cramer
[info]veejane: I think about the shitstorm occurring

Key quotes:

[info]shati:
This whole thing ... women of color have to prove they have the credentials to critique books by white authors. Fans of color have to prove they exist. People of color have to prove that they have meaningful conversations. People of color on top of that have to prove their good faith and their willingness to help white writers. Everybody who disagrees with TNH has to prove their non-sockpuppetry. All anti-racist people have to share the details of their class backgrounds with Will Shetterly, however personal or painful those details might be, and people of color have to prove their existence again. Now you have to prove that there are valid reasons to be careful about your full legal name on the internet. On top of all the damage. It's kind of ironic that SF fandom, of all things, is having such a crisis of imagination about the existence and the workings of other communities.


[info]shewhohashope:
Congratulations, SF/F. If I had ever wanted to be an author, an editor, or in any way take part in the larger SF/F community, that desire would be dead by now. You know what would be 'nice'? If more white people found the silence of so many PoC in SF/F more uncomfortable than hearing their criticism.

I don't think that there is a shadowy conspiracy. There doesn't need to be. This is what happens when white people with social capital make racist remarks and are called on it. The people who do the calling out are punished for it. Every. Time. Not necessarily by the person who was originally called out, but by their friends and allies who wish to defend their behaviour because they cannot countenance that it may be unacceptable for white people to say whatever comes into their heads, without any consequences. You'll see it play out when a radio host compares a black tennis player to a much-beloved, racist, children's toy which I will no longer name. You'll see it happen when a Cambridge academic says that he will not tolerate Jamaican neighbours.
hi, guys -- I owe lots of people email and lots of people comments, but I probably won't be able to make them until the weekend. I am really grateful for the support from everyone who's posted. ([info]jennyo, I hope you get this through pingback, if not I'll check over the weekend -- I loved your post! It made me laugh during a horrible, horrible day. I agree with it 100%. I feel like this means it must be the End of Days. Let us hope we are never in this uncomfortable position of agreement again.)

I am so tired from this and other things that I am going to be hugely lazy and not link right now.

[info]rydra_wong has been collecting links. There have been the usual powerful amazing posts from people making gold out of shit. I will try to post some recs this weekend.

[info]jonquil volunteered to build a list or index of the book recs people have been making, and I think I saw someone mention a goodreads list or a librarything list? Maybe you can drop it in the comments here if you see this?

[info]parallactic had a rec for Yxta Maya Murray's The Conquest that made it sound AMAZING. And I had to laugh when two people recommend Amitav Ghosh's The Calcutta Chromosome, because that's been one of the books I've been reading for the past week or so. Amitav Ghosh is awesome! This is my third book by him, after Shadow Lines and The Circle of Reason, and they are all wonderful and very different from each other. Highly recommended.

The other book I've been reading is Hanauni-Kay Trask's From a Native Daughter: Colonialism and Sovereignty in Hawai'i and maybe someday soon I will post on it and why it made me go public with the latest RaceFail. It's very good, but I'm glad I read Andrea Smith first--I found her overall synthesis more powerful and more comprehensive, and it gave me the tools to understand more of Trask, or resist her truth less, than I might have otherwise.

Somebody asked if there was a charity that I'd like people to donate to. I am so flattered by the idea! Anyway, my first thought was the place I always figured I'd make a huge donation to if I ever struck it rich, which is The New York Public Library, because it is probably the institution in the world I most love and that has made the biggest difference to me, checkered history as guilt-grant of the robber barons and all. But then I thought about what Deepa said about libraries in "I Didn't Dream of Dragons", and access, and so, really, donations to your own library or libraries focused on serving underprivileged communities in your home country, that would make me happy, too. Or the Carl Brandon Society. Or, it's not a charity, but Kiva.org seems to be the model for finance that economists from the Global South like best, so that's cool, too. I tend to prioritize women seeking education and/or people in the places currently suffering American occupations or colonization (Afghanistan, Iraq, Puerto Rico, and Guam) or the Caribbean, but obviously you may have other preferences.

I have probably forgotten something critical but presumably LJ will still be here in the morning.
I was thinking about how one of the elements in RaceFail09 was that [info]mac_stone apparently received threatening, harassing, misogynist, and homophobic emails. I have never and do not believe that they were sent by the people [info]mac_stone accused, but I would like to make this perfectly clear in case anyone is tempted to act unwisely in anger or outrage:

I do not wish, endorse, approve of, and in fact CATEGORICALLY DISAPPROVE of sexist, classist, racist, homophobic, ableist, or other prejudicial slurs and ANY AND ALL threats of violence or assault. Do not respond to provocations by threatening the people involved, anyone related to them, or anyone they love.

This is not a joke. This is not reverse psychology. DON'T DO IT.

And no, this is not an admission that I think my friends or supporters are likely to do any such thing. I don't. But in case I'm wrong: Don't do it.
Dear People Who Keep Pointing Out That My LJ Is the First Search Result for My Full Name,

Yes, it is NOW.

With some exasperation,

--m.

__

This is going to be my last statement on the outing unless it escalates past the point of Kathryn putting my name on her blog and Will attempting to put my name in the feministsf wiki and putting my name on his LJ and taking it off and putting it on and taking it off etc., equating pseudonymity to belonging to the KKK, and being outraged that I do not allow him to disagree with me in my own LJ. I have banned him and directed his emails to spam because I do not wish to talk to him. Remarkably, his behavior over the past several days has not made me any more eager to talk to him.

So when Will started sending me bitchy email about my not having said thank you for his having removed my last name from his blog and Kathryn said I owed her an apology because she only listed my full name in ONE wiki and she didn't realize I didn't want it there (even though it took five people arguing with her for her to stop) and didn't QUITE name me although she varied between my first name and my initials and "Mademoiselle" and "She Who Must Not BE Named" so it is COMPLETELY FALSE for me to say "Kathryn Cramer has been linking my LJ to my full name on wikis and in other people's blog comments"--

when they made these demands, I had to think about them. In the interests of behaving perfectly correctly and maintaining the moral high ground and speaking nothing but truth, *did* I owe them apologies?

And then I thought: You know, last year I made a post which might have outed a couple of fans by linking their LJ names to things they'd said at a con, and when someone pointed it out to me, my very first comment was a bullshit defensive comment. And then I realized it was a bullshit defensive comment and locked down the post and notified and apologized to the two people I might have endangered and apologized to the person I was defensive to and thanked her for pointing out my mistake.

And that's the thing. When you fuck up and hurt someone, your first response shouldn't be, "OHMYGOD HOW DARE YOU BE HURT, THANK ME FOR MAKING MINIMAL AMENDS," and if that's your first response, when you take a minute to think about it, your second response shouldn't be "AND IT'S ALL YOUR OWN FAULT FOR BEING STUPID ANYWAY." I'm willing to admit it was dumb of me to wander down those dark Internet alleys with my name on. But that still doesn't mean it was right for Will to knock me down accidentally or Kathryn to mug me, and Will *owed* me that hand back up, not shirtiness about my "upper class entitlement" for not saying thank you to him, and he had and has no right to decide that the lack of an apology means he's justified in whacking me over the head with a baseball bat.

I can't believe how much of this undying zombie RaceFail has come from people who would rather blow up the fucking Internet than admit they'd made a fucking mistake and apologize. Because nobody went into this hoping WS or KC or the NHs would act like assholes. People went into it granting them extra credit because they had good associations with their books or blogs. And they just burned it all on a pyre.

So no, Will Shetterly, I do not thank you for behaving with minimal (and I do mean minimal) human decency when I asked you politely and without assumption of malice to correct a mistake you'd made. No, Kathryn Cramer, I do not apologize to you, and by the way, I expect you have not bothered to disclose that you are married to a Tor editor AT PRESENT while harping on the fact that I was an Assistant Editor there for nine months THIRTEEN YEARS AGO because you are still under the delusion that this is taking place among a small circle of people who know and care who you are, and not because you are conscience-less hypocrite, but goddamn it does not make me think better of you or your solipsism.

You're both clearly getting off on the attention, and on the hope of my anger, fear, pain, and frustration. SO HERE IT IS. I'm angry, afraid, hurt, and frustrated. Get off on it, then get off. That's all you get from me.

I'm fucking done.